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#1 mike flips282811 days
#2 Andrew A194137 days
#3 BikerBrian116501 days
#4 Vega104090 days
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#6 Kristopher74501 days
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Sz
Scoring: Each day you own a gold medal gives you one point.
 
BikerBrian
192716
In reference to Mike's suggestion about the Golden Club, I brought it up to him that the GC is not a very fair comparison statistic for those who joined on in the last year or two.

Here are some reasons why:

1) A lot of GC points were earned 2-3 years ago, when there were many fewer levels to focus on.

2) Mike (and others) have perfected each level, making gold medals much harder to come by now than they were 2 yrs ago.

As an example, The Veenk is #26 in GC with 900 days. He hasn't submitted since May 2006. He earned these points BM (Before Mike).

As another example of how it is more difficult now than it used to be, I wonder how many GC points Rachman got for his underground game? He is now #34 on that level. A comment was posted with his 2005 game that if anyone beat it, they were a FREAK. Not that I like being called a freak, but I (and 32 other players) have beaten it.  rachman! on Underground

The GC is good for players of yesteryear, as it keeps a presence for them on BoD, but the TTC points system and the TR time system are more accurate for active players. There are only 3 players in the Top 10 GC that are active (Mike, Kris, and Vega). Only 11 of the Top 40 GC are active.

Prayer (#7) and Oliver (#8) are in the Top 10, but don't have any golds left. The only gold that Rachman (#9) has is bottle. If you look at their profiles, they likely earned their points BM (before 2006). Holding 20 golds for one year would earn 7300 pts.

And to think, I just told Xuzz that he had too much time on his hands . Like I told Mike yesterday, I should just shut up and play...
Mr.pickle.
oliver was still good tho, evan tho he ha snot golds left...hes still ranked like top 5 I think in standerd....

and anyway once agian love the idea
Vega
15108
Interesting that you would bring this up to Mike. Anyone who digs around enough in the GC forum thread will soon find that Mike and I hat some pretty lengthy discussions about the accuracy/correct representation of the GC point system. The root "issue" or "problem" is that it's time based. My argument (if you wanna call it that) back then was that it's no different than any other record keeping system in sports and/or other competitions where records are acknowledged for a certain period of time until they are broken, then a new person's name is burned into the previous person's place.

A great example: Mark Spitz has often been recognized and known as possibly the best Olympian ever for his 7 gold medals in swim competition in one summer Olympics. Now Michael Phelps has broken his record and Spitz will be stepping down. If you treated their accomplishments in the same manor, and Spitz collected 7 GC points every day for 36 years, he would have compiled approx 91,980 points by 2008. Phelps comes along and begins collecting 8 points per day in 2008. Using the same system of recognition, Spitz would still be #1 in GC until the year 2039, when Phelps would finally surpass him.

With that in mind, it hardly seems fair at all, because Phelps has more golds, better times across the board, but would be recognized as "2nd" behind Spitz for 31 years.
It's basically penalizing Phelps for being born after Spitz. So he who comes first has a significant advantage over he who comes second. Or.... he who played BoD first has a big advantage over he who plays BoD now. (as far as GC is concerned).

The GC club system is a wonderful idea for historical purposes, but it's not a very accurate measure of current rank of Gold medal ability. Laser has 23 golds in 2008. That, in my opinion would be like having 'maybe' 40 or 50 golds in 2004. The problem with my calculation is the 'maybe'. It's immeasurable. It's incalculable. This is exactly what Mike was trying to communicate to me a couple years ago. I understand now.

Mr.pickle.
micheal phelps actully has 16 gold medals including both olympics(and hes from where else but the u.s.a) but your right it will still be a looong time before he would catch up using that system...
BikerBrian
192716
Well put, Vega.

I don't think that Mike minds the GC methodology so much anymore (since he's on top); he is simply trying to help the little guy .

Speaking of little guys, it's a good thing that Sz doesn't follow the same line of thinking as the Democratic Party in the USA. If he did, the scoring system would be set up so that points and medals were taken from the top players (wealthiest individuals) and redistributed to the players who are less fortunate (those who don't dedicate themselves to perfection).

Sz for President of the World!!! Look at what a great job he's done in bringing together citizens from many countries to form a community of competition and fellowship.

In case you couldn't tell, I'm in political mode, with the U.S. presidential election being only 2 months away.
Mr.pickle.
lol, yeah....stupid communists........
mike flips
292618
Glad I made my point Vega

@BB: maybe its not about the little guy. One more ranking id be on top in But seriously, if we could set a filter for a certain period of time, it would just give us more insight. The official golden club would remain the same probably but at least we could compare to other active players.
Kristopher
81217
You can probably take me out of the list of active players.
Mr.pickle.
Kris! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOoooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!DONT LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bones
pickle notice the winking smiley true kris hasnt *submitted*cough* saving up times*cough* many golds lately
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